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View Article  THE MOD (Procurement in the Ministry of Defence) UK
THE MOD (Ministry of Defence) UK

Why isn't the MOD answerable to Anybody


Purchasing goods are far inflated prices £50 for a bag of screws
(online £2)

Buying a whole Print Run of a book previously passed as OK for Publication
(£150,000) for 25,000 copies
because 50 words of Text were not appropriate because of Safety to our Troops
(Why pass it in the first place)

People with names are responsible for wasting money, but they



View Article  Trident Replacement Delay Expected

Trident Replacement Delay Expected

Putting off plans to replace the Trident nuclear weapons system until after the next general election, and drastically scaling down plans to build two new aircraft carriers, are expected to be among key decisions agreed at a meeting of the government's national security council next week, well-placed sources have told the Guardian newspaper.

The Navy will pay for the limited carrier project by agreeing to severe cuts in the number of its surface ships, defence officials say. The RAF will lose many of its fast jets, mainly Tornado and Harriers, and tens of thousands of Ministry of Defence posts, civilian and military, will be axed.

A proposed 20% cut in the size of the army - a loss of some 20,000 soldiers - will be put off because of political sensitivity at a time British troops are fighting and getting killed in Afghanistan, according to sources familiar with the negotiations.

Officials are working flat out for a meeting of the NSC due to be chaired by David Cameron on Tuesday when decisions will have to be made if the government is to meet the end of October deadline for its strategic defence and security review. The outcome of the defence review will be announced around the date of the Treasury's comprehensive spending review due on 20 October.

Liam Fox, the Defence Secretary, assured Robert Gates, his American counterpart, in Washington this week that Britain would maintain a Trident system with the missiles leased from the US. However, he remains locked in a battle with George Osborne over whether the £20bn-plus capital cost of replacing Trident should come out of the MoD's £37bn a year annual budget or be paid for by a supplementary fund.

A decision to postpone the "main gate" decision on what kind of submarines should replace the existing four-boat Trident fleet, and how many nuclear missiles they should carry will be left until 2015, senior officials predict. "If [main gate] were to be delayed until just after a May 2015 election that is of no great financial significance, no great military significance, no great industrial significance. But, believe me, it is of profound political significance", Nick Harvey, the armed forces minister, told his Liberal Democrat party conference this week. He would not have said that unless he was confident of a a decision by the coalition government to delay, defence officials said.

Fox assured Gates that Britain would also buy US Joint Strike Aircraft whose cost has soared to about £100m each. However, the numbers to be bought by the UK will be slashed from the original 138 to perhaps less than half that number, officials say.

Plans for the first carrier, Queen Elizabeth, due to enter service in 2015-16, will go ahead, but the capacity of the second - to be called Prince of Wales - will be severely reduced and the project delayed, sources say.

The Navy, meanwhile, will have to forfeit a significant number of the 18 new frigates it wants and also possibly reduce its planned fleet of six new £1bn- a-piece Type 45 destroyers. The Navy's fleet of landing dock vessels and supply ships is also expected to be cut. Other candidates for the chop - or cuts - are plans for a new range of helicopters for all three services.

Heavy cuts of between 10-20% in Navy personnel (now totalling about 30,000) and the RAF (40,000) are expected. GeneraL Sir David Richards, who takes over as Chief of Defence Staff next month, is reported to have persuaded David Cameron to protect the army for the moment. It is unlikely to remain untouched, though it is not expected to feel the full effect of planned cuts until British troops end combat operations in Afghanistan in 2015.

Fox indicated a reduction in the size of the army when he said after his meeting with Gates in Washington: "We would be able to maintain a moderate deployable force for a considerable length of time if required," adding: "Maybe not exactly at the level we have now but at still a respectable and useful level."

A key issue facing ministers next week, officials say, is how many irreversible decisions they are prepared to make and how many will consist of delaying projects until after the four-year timetable covered by next month's spending review.

Foxnwolf comments;

Knocking back orders to save elsewhere is a "nohoper" always has been and always will be, but yet it still goes on. You delay a Trident system, New Carrier, Helicopters, Men & Equipment it only cause grief and costs Billions in ££ or $$.

These MOD suits who think they are MIB might as well trade in the "Futures Market". Short term savings is no answer to long term benefits it always ends up costing 300 to 500 % more than the initial costs laid out. I failed Math at school, but my Hamster could even figure this one out.

I reckon they should Sack 15,000 out of the 20,000 procurement officers they have in the MOD or (wouldnt like to see anyone out on their ear) stick them in uniform and pack them off to where our boys and girls are fighting and get them to check the kit they are signing off for our military.......
View Article  A Scandal at the Ministry of Defence

A Scandal at the Ministry of Defence

There is something fundamentally wrong with the procurement process inside the MoD

In some ways, it was pointless for the Government to try to suppress an internal Whitehall report into the continuing scandal of bungled procurement at the Ministry of Defence. It is, after all, hardly a secret. Helicopters that cannot fly in the dark; tanks that fail in sandy conditions; ships that are years behind schedule and billions of pounds over budget: these are familiar stories from the past three decades and are well known to everyone serving in the Armed Forces. Yet it is still alarming to discover that the extent of the incompetence is, in the words of Bernard Gray, the report's author, "harming our ability… to conduct difficult current operations". Mr Gray, who was commissioned by John Hutton, the last Defence Secretary, to carry out the audit, has discovered that current defence projects are over budget by £35 billion and arrive five years later than expected. His report asks questions that continue to perplex: how can it take 20 years to buy a ship, or aircraft, or tank; why does it always seem to cost at least twice what was thought; and why does it never quite seem to do what it was supposed to?

There is something fundamentally wrong with the procurement process inside the MoD, which seems impervious to attempts down the years to make it more efficient and professionally run. Things have worsened under a Labour government that is happy to send British troops into battle, yet dithers in its decision-making and does not provide the means to match the military commitments. Instead of getting a grip on this state of affairs during its 12 years in power, the Government now finds itself accused of trying to smear the reputation of the head of the Army for complaining about equipment shortages, while also seeking to cover up the evidence that he was quite right to do so. 

Foxnwolf comments:

This has always been a nest of vipers. This nest now needs to be "cleaned" to many handshakers, eye winkers and the odd nod brigade involved with this lot.

Why spend 100`s of millions and sometimes Billions of ££ or $$ in development costs in trying to figure out a widget to do this and that. 99% of the required widgets have already been made and proved elsewhere maybe in the US or Europe and are up for sale for maybe one third of your predicted sales cost when item is produced less your development costs.

Is this some great mathematical equation that only a person like me who got kicked out of school at age 14 with no education at all except being able to read, write and have common sense, can see.

Military wanted Blackhawks they got Lynx (totally unsuitable) £???,???,???.??

Military wanted M16 they got SA80 (totally unsuitable) £???,???,???.??

(will list more when I have time to do some "lurking around")

If there ever was an open enquiry needed, this is definatley a place to start.......